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MILKY WAY STONES
If you are thinking of making a
large symbol on the Earth for the largest figure on the heavenly Sky, you hardly
can make it greater than our ancestors did it with setting the stone rows
or alignments of megalithic stones.
The Carnac stone rows
could be a very god way of making a big symbol for the biggest
figure you
can se on the night Sky namely the white contours of the Milky Way Line which
in my opinion also was our ancestors purpose of making these mega monuments.
MENHIR
STONES.
Picture
1 an 2 is from Denmark, island Bornholm in the Baltic Ocean, location Boelshavn, shows the remains of an ancient
"stone
ship setting". Officially the stones is called "Holy Woman and her 9 Children", but "once upon a
time" there was more standing stones - or "children".
Actually,
the location should more likely be named as the "Holy Man and his 9
Children" because it is the female megalithic stone which are turned over and broken beside
the still standing male stone, compared to the northern Milky Way contours on
the astronomically star map to the left of the male stone.
The
fact that many of our ancient megalithic stones are turned over or blasted in
pieces and used as building materials, I think it was the influence
from the Lutheran Reformation, where all what was natural was "the Devils
work". In our days, fortunately, we again are again beginning to know better.
Just
to show you how our ancestors did a good job in order to shape a holy stone so similar
as possible in deep respect for their spiritual, ritual, mythological, natural
and intuitive inspirations and feelings for the nature of the creation. Picture
1 shows the female contours of the southern Milky Way and picture 2 with the
clear female hairstyle are from Denmark, Bornholm, location Stammershalle.
E-Mail response
on the TV Documentary "Stonehenge Decoded":
John C. Barrett
Professor and Archaeologist
University of Sheffield
Ivar Nielsen
Pileloekken 7
DK 3770 Allinge
Baltic
island of Bornholm
Denmark
Dear John C. Barrett,
I have tried to send this text to Michael Parker
Pearson, but my mail was automatically rejected by the mail server.
Making a further google search on "Stonehenge Decoded" I found your
somewhat critical article about this matter, and therefore I want to
send the text to you. (Maybe you are able to provide me a working
mail-address to Michael? You are also welcome to forward this mail
to Michael, if you chose)
Humans and their Megalithic Stones
I want to
express my gratitude for watching the very interesting TV
Documentary "Stonehenge Decoded". The actual archaeological
discoveries of the whole complex are a Job Well Done!
Congratulations!
- As a very interested layman (and with just 7
years of ordinary Public School in Denmark), I have been studying
human ancient matters for several years, originally started of in
1979 with some spiritual experiences which were unforced by me. They
just happened to me. But they make me wonder and ponder of many
things in life. And very often I have alternative questions and
answers regarding lots of issues. This also regards some issues in
"Stonehenge Decoded" Documentary.
Several times I have heard archaeologists and still living native
people telling mythological story which seems to have lost the
deeper mythological meaning and sense. In "Stonehenge Decoded",
the local
archaeologist, Ramilson, stated about the local Tandroy People of
Madagaskar, that "the Tandroy ancestors inhabits the megalithic
stones".
But the Ramilson statement very much makes me wonder. The dead
ancestral spirits really living in the stones? Could Ramilsonīs
statement or assertion have a more specific meaning? And it seems to
me that it is a little farfetched to claim the Wooden Henge as a
ritual site for the living and the Stonehenge a ritual site for the
dead.
Would the local ancestors on the Plain really make more efforts to
build heavy stone structures in several periods for the dead than
for the living? Could the Wooden Henge and the Stonehenge not just
be 2 similar structures for the same purpose or 2 separate
astronomical/cosmological/mythological purposes? I think so! And I
also thinks that the real purpose for building both
structures could of a deeper meaning than many modern people can
imagine.
-
Which deeper meaningful and understandable connection can there be
between "ritual stone- or wood settings in an ancient monumental
building" and "ancestors"? It depends of course of the meaning of
setting stones and building large megalithic structures under great
strains. And where comes the "ancestors" into the picture of the
story telling? Can there be a deeper meaning than just proclaiming
and saying that "the ancestors inhabits the stones"?
First you have of course to know the purpose of setting stones and
building the ritual structures, and you donīt build such large and
heavy structures without a real good purpose! You do this in order
to mark specific important events that really matters and gives a
real meaning for your tribal life. And, if you really think that the
spirits lives on after the physical death, there was/is many other
local places where the ancestral spirits can rest besides in some
standing stones?
"Ancestors" are, in my opinion, not just "Forefathers" or dead
members in an ancient family group. In the deepest sense, the
concepts of "Ancestral" and "Forefathers" can be connected with the
very telling of the mythological story of Creation and the origin of
mankind. Where did we come from and how did this happened? Did we
just grow up from the soil of the Earth or was other "unearthly"
conditions in play? Where do we meet the first telling of the human
origin, if not from the Creation stories from a lot of ancient
peoples and in the later written Religious telling?
-
In order to find out the question of the origin of the mankind, you
have to know something about the cosmological conditions that
creates the possibility of life on Earth. The basic life seems
immediately to grow by itself, but we all know that the Sun have its
specific influences on the life on Earth. So, imagine living in
ancient times, we have to extend our knowledge at least to the Sun
influences and the changes of the Seasons. Therefore: Setting stones
to mark the Sun and thereby the seasons, were, as you surely know,
really important in the ancient time.
These physical observations is for many people a quite sufficient
and enough explanation to the questions of "where we came from and
where we go to" because this is just the fact of all living things
in nature. And it really also should be a sufficient facts for
modern archaeologists when the find and study these ancient stones
and monumentally buildings, that the archaeologists makes the real
mental and conscious connection to larger cosmological conditions
than just the comfortable: "It must be something ritual".
And when we have studied the Earth/Sun relationship for a while, we
maybe also begin to wonder over the view in the seemingly revolving
night Sky with the Stars and the white band that vaults over the
Sky, the contours of the Milky Way. An that is just what many
ancient cultures have pondered over for thousands of years. Stars
have been connected into figures of all human and animal kinds. Star
constellations have been plotted and symbolized all over the world
and is very recognizable.
When it comes to gathering knowledge and setting stones marking the
Sun directions and setting marking stones it's "just" a matter of
observing the Sun throughout some years and set the stones in the
seasonal directions from a central marking stone. And when it comes
to the physical observations of the night Sky, you can do the very
same if you want to mark the north pole or some specific Stars or
Star constellations.
It is quite another question of understanding our
forefathers/foremothers way of gathering real knowledge on the extra
terrestrial areas outside the Earth and outside the Solar System. In
this case, there are no other possibilities for understanding the
ancestral way of gathering knowledge, but really to accept the whole
concept of "spiritual traveling", which is very difficult for modern
people mentally to grasp, while mostly getting modern Astronomical
and Cosmological "outer space" knowledge by technological
instruments of all kinds.
Often one hear or read about "shamanistic mind traveling out in
space" but very few describes what the "cosmic mind travelers"
really gathers of information from the outer Space. But how else
could our ancestors get their ideas to "the story of Creation"? Have
our ancestors discovered much more of Space than the modern human
beings can understand? Well, I think so!
But how on Earth can one make the arguments for, and explain a
possible enormous ancestral Space/Galactic knowledge? Well, one
really can't without finding a lot of ancient symbols and story
telling of Creation and try to compare the symbols and telling to
the modern scientific knowledge of Astronomy and Cosmology.
And such a common knowledge seems, in my opinion, to be factual. And
also in my opinion, our ancestors were/are well, very well ahead of
the modern science regarding a Holistic understanding of everything
on Earth and in the Heaven.
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The very idea and practice of the technological and industrial
"development" and the very idea of the "Newton and Einstein Laws of
gravity" are the worst modern obstacles in order to get a Holistic
and Universal knowledge similar to our ancestors.
Our ancestors had no trouble with any laws of gravity, their spirits
could easily move anywhere they wanted, but because of the modern
technological way of getting knowledge by spacecrafts and
astronomical instruments, the modern human beings are physical and
mentally stuck of gravitational difficulties, launching very heavy
tin cans in Space and getting very speculative information by
instruments, in stead of launching their Spirits the Ancestral Way
of gathering intuitive and immediate knowledge.
Well John, these are my "wonders and ponders".
Feel Very Welcome to se my furthermore wonders and ponders in my
site:
http://www.native-science.net -
it's not dogmatic religious in any ways, just natural.
And if you have the time, I would be very pleased to get a email
from you!
All the best from Ivar Nielsen, the the Baltic Island of Bornholm,
Denmark.
NB: An ancestral location 200 metres nearby my adress:
English
introduction:
http://www.bornholmsmuseer.dk/helleristninger/English/English.html
Danish
descriptions:
http://www.bornholmsmuseer.dk/helleristninger/lokaliteter/Madsebakkeopt/Madse_altom.html
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Ivar Nielsen
The Native way of Knowledge:
Mythological & Cosmological Web Sites:
www.native-science.net
&
www.cosmology-unified.net
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